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Choosing LEED-NC or LEED-CI [Mar. 30th, 2007|04:01 pm]
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I am trying to figure out which way to take this project I am working on and your advice would be appreciated.
Project: Existing 7 story building in downtown Portland, OR. It will be two levels of restaurant/bar and 5 levels of condos.
Problem: To use LEED-NC or LEED-CI

From what I understand so far, by running though the CI guidebook, is that the project wouldn't receive credit for the shell and mechanical improvements to the building because those project would yet be completed. Site points would also be lost.
By going with NC the project gains points from reusing the building, site, and other major renovations done to the building. Multi-family projects are always annoying to figure out where they fit in the LEED system.
Seems like NC is the way to go here but I am looking for others' advice on the matter after looking through all the articles I have found.


[User Picture]From: wileypeter
2007-03-31 07:20 pm (UTC)
I'm no help at all. What building, if I may ask?
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[User Picture]From: webtar
2007-04-01 02:23 pm (UTC)
The Esquire. It's on SW Park by Alder.
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[User Picture]From: center
2007-04-01 08:11 pm (UTC)
And you've already eliminated LEED-EB?

Is it major renovation enough for LEED-NC considering that it's an existing building?
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[User Picture]From: webtar
2007-04-02 02:40 pm (UTC)
Yes because the owner is gutting the interior. From what I understand of EB, it's just upgrading the systems.
The building, and old hotel and bar, has been vacant for 20 years so it's a pretty big renovation.
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[User Picture]From: center
2007-04-02 02:49 pm (UTC)
hmmm that's interesting. I've got an old industrial building that similarly has basically been disused for 20 years. It's essentially got no systems except for some gas piping and fire supression that was upgraded and inspected in the 80s-90s. I was thinking I would be going for LEED-EB, but based on how raw the space is, LEED-NC may be appropriate. How odd..
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[User Picture]From: meridonarcht
2007-04-02 02:34 pm (UTC)
if you use LEED-EB or LEED-NC you can use credits for things in CI i believe.
If its a purely an interior finish change, it would be better to just do the CI, i believe it more points per individual type of finish.
NC/EB (depending on the age of the building) should incorporate finishes into the count but if you are changing and HVAC, MECH, ELEC, WALLS, LANDSCAPE, HARDSCAPE etc i would go with NC/EB becuase that is not incorporated into CI.

it normally divides out such as this between the diciplines.
CI- interior designers
NC/EB- archiects & engineers

hopefully that makes sense
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[User Picture]From: webtar
2007-04-02 02:43 pm (UTC)
Since the mechanical systems are being replaced it made me think we should go NC. The building has been vacant for 20 years so it looks like the electrical will be upgraded as well. Since there's no landscape, it's just an infill building downtown, it made me think CI since the interior is being gutter.
I don't know too much about CI, not an interiors person, so I guess I'll have to go over it more closely to see if we get more points because of the finishes chosen in the building.

Thanks for you help.
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